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ARGH .. I can't decide !!!!!!! ... should i pick up an iPad or should I wait for next version ? 

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398 deviants said Dont buy ... AT ALL . Waste of money !!!!
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336 deviants said Wait for next model dude
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51 deviants said Best thing EVAR --- You'll Love it !
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30 deviants said If you're " DESTROYINC " vote here

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:icondracodragonster:
Dracodragonster Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2010
Defects. I suggest wait until theyve worked evrything out...
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:iconwyldephyre2100:
WyldePhyre2100 Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
You know how Apple works. The first versions are NEVER any good. Wait for them to work out all the kinks and whatnot.
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:iconcybersaiya:
cybersaiya Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2010
Buy the IPad
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:iconpanzertron:
panzertron Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2010
Crap futurism :/
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:iconandikunar:
AndiKunar Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I am an (aspiring) pro photographer, who bought an iPad last week. So contrary to most posters, I actually HAVE experience with the device.

Pls. bear in mind that I am VERY quality-oriented. And I'm no fanboy (I use PCs, also had various Tablet-PCs,ePictureFrames,...), I just use the iPad as a tool. Overall I think it's probably the best one can currently get for use as a lightweight portfolio+organizer+eReader, but it needs work to get value for your money. It is very nice-looking, has a good form-factor, onstant-on, and it's not a full PC/Mac Notebook, so the battery-life and instant-on is much better.

iPad as portfolio - not quite there yet - too much "pictures are digital memories" thinking. But probably can be fixed with workarounds (working on them) to get useful for photographers
* Color-fidelity is not good enough for me (mine displays images way too red). I managed to meassure an ICC profile (through using the iPad as a remote console for my PC), but still need to tweak the profile, so that I can convert my pictures for use on the iPad (need to resize them anyway maybe to the 4:3 screen ratio and the max. resolution). The iPad's display color/luminance characteristics are definitely different than the iPhone 3/4 (for which there are profiles on the internet)
* only 1 level of picture folders (no nested folders), sorting pictures by shooting-time (OK, there are workarounds possible, you need to ICC-convert+resize your images anyway, so you can also rename+change the date/time)
* iTunes is a nightmare to transfer/manage your pictures. Yes there are nice 3rd party apps, but due to the way the iPad stores the data, the pictures transferred over WLAN,... are then not easily visible to thhe other apps.

iPad is an outstanding a paper-notebook/calendar substitute - e.g. with eMail/calendar/contacts stored on Exchange servers, with VERY nice downloadable apps for Presentations, Mind-Mapping,... PERFECT!

iPad as a magazine reader and surfPad - PERFECT! I don't miss flash/silverlight/... at all. eBooks on the iPad are mixed. I like magazines (e.g. Wired,...) very much, but I don't like reading books on the iPad.

Playing with the iPad - I don't know, I'm not into games.

Hope this helps, Andi
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:iconsideshowsito:
sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
Very cool insight Andi thank you ! To be honest I actually look forward to picking up an ipad mainly to view images/ manage my website. I agree with your points and yes I do think it needs a bit more work.

Thats interesting you pointed out the color fidelity. Do you know if theres any way to calibrate them ( maybe an app ? ) . Also do you know if using the camera connection kit converts your RAW files to JPG or does it actually allow you to view RAW on your ipad directly ? im definetely looking at purchasing an ipad, i guess the timing just needs to be right ... of course, i could always just pass the ipad over to my sister if a new one comes out or sell it ...

thanks again
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:iconandikunar:
AndiKunar Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Color Fidelity - it's a bit complicated (I try for simplicity in my explanation while omitting some issues).
* There are no calibration apps on the iPad, and even the future iPad OS4 is not color-managed (I pinged Datacolor if they would be interested, so far not ...).
* The iPad displays all images "as is". And this is the hook to allow an increase in quality.
* If one would be able to create an icc-profile (measure the iPad's display) and then convert the JPGs before transferring them to the iPad, you could do optimal quality (pretty much like printing to the iPads display). The problem right now for me is the profile creation. Display profiles (unlike printer profiles) have 2 parts - one that the OS/driver loads into the video-card at startup (to make the white white and the grey w/o color-casts) the other part defines really what colors the display can actually show. The display profile I created (via showing my PC's screen on the iPad and measuring this) does try exactly this, but it cannot load anything onto the iPad. So I can't do it with the Spyder colorimeter. I gave up for now and will look for other alternatives for icc-profiling the iPad. More theory here [link]

RAW - the camera connection kit isn't yet shipping in Austria, so I don't know. As far as I read, the kit supports most RAW directly. For me RAW on the iPad is not an option, my data is too big (one of my CF-cards is larger than my iPads storage ...) and I just would like to use the JPGs for iPad-viewing (the RAW for processing on my PC afterwards).
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:iconcyberborg:
Cyberborg Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional General Artist
I dunno but if that $500 is burning a hole in your pocket? I am in need of an Intuos4 so can I borrow a hundred?
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:iconsideshowsito:
sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
LOL ... maybe ill just save up to get a cintiq 21" !!!
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:iconcyberborg:
Cyberborg Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional General Artist
Now THAT would be totally BadAss!!
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:icondestroyinc:
destroyinc Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
IM THE REAL DESTROY INC.

17 people are liars.
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:iconsideshowsito:
sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
AHAHAHAHAHHA OOH MAN ..... how do i know you are really you ? shit ... you the smoke monster ??????? i hope you are cuz that would be EVEN COOLER than Jesse "Locke" Bodas!
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:icondestroyinc:
destroyinc Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010
You know its me. How? Easy.

I love Agakta!
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:iconshadowdharma:
ShadowDharma Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
Maybe not the best thing ever but I would love to have one! I think the touch screen interface and the apps are awesome and if I had the money I would buy one right now definitely!
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:iconlagartoi:
lagartoi Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
Buy a android table, or wait for a better android table. Take a look in [link]
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:iconlapoetry-n-photo:
LAPoetry-n-Photo Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Depends. Why do you want it and would you use it frequently in the near future?
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:iconkeleja:
keleja Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Not a waste... Almost all my friends though it was a waste of cash, but then one got it and they all want one now. Yes, its like a big iphone/ipod touch, but as it turns out that is AWESOME!
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:icondaeo:
Daeo Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional General Artist
Buy it. The residual value on Apple products is great. When the new one comes out just eBay your old one and get a good part of what you paid right back. There's no reason to go a chunk of your life without something you really want just because you know that something better is coming in the future. Just because flying cars are going to exist one day doesn't mean you shouldn't own a four-wheeled vehicle in the mean time. Live in the NOW!
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:iconsideshowsito:
sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
yeah thats what im thinking too .. i COULD pick it up and just pass it on to my sister or sell it ... i guess im just bent on the fact a new one comes out it will have better features ... but yeah youre right ...

im off to Vegas in Sept .. maybe ill win myself a new ipad playing roulette =P
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:iconrjsmith:
RJSmith Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I used to like apple. I've owned quite a few of their products over the years, starting with my trusty old Apple][

That said, I don't like what apple has become in the last few years. Steve Jobs has become arrogant and dismissive of the people who made apple what it is (their customers).
For example, with the recent reception issue with the iPhone4. If held a certain way it severely reduced the effectiveness of the antenna and rather than apologies for the design flaw and offer to help customers with the problerm, Jobs said 'just avoid holding it in that way'. [link]

So basically, we've got your money, we know there's a problem but we don't care.

Also, the last few years have seen a string of lawsuits from Apple, trying to 'protect' their trademarks and logos. Some have been legit, but some have been just downright stupid. For example, one of the two large supermarket chains here in Australia is called Woolworths. They use a stylised 'W' with rounded tops and sides and it looks kind of like an apple. [link] No surprises since they brand themselves as the 'fresh food people'.

Seriously, how dumb would a consumer have to be to confuse the logo and wander into a supermarket expecting to be able to buy a desktop computer??!

Anyway .. most Apple products seem like decent products, but some just seem to be a little pointless, like the iPad. That along with Apples increasing dismissiveness of its customers would make me think twice before ever buying another Apple offering.
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:iconsideshowsito:
sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
do you own an iphone4 ? if so have you had that actual problem ?
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:iconrjsmith:
RJSmith Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
nope - i personally do not own one, but a good friend of mine who does and he tells me that with the case OFF, the phone definitely does get much better reception than with it on. as for reception differing depending on how you hold it, i'm unsure about the 'how you hold it' thing, but when i saw the screen shot where Jobs had written 'just avoid holding it in that way' i thought, no thanks - i'll just avoid buying it in the first place if thats the level of concern he has for a customer who's shelled out several hundred $
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:iconhouserphotography:
HouserPhotography Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional Photographer
Not sure how skewed your poll results will be - lots of Apple haters or people who didn't even buy the iPad chiming in. Lots of good their opinion is, I say. So let me share my POV, since I was an early hater of the iPad AND I have actually purchased the damn thing, so I think my opinion should bear a bit more weight than anyone who hasn't.

Flash. Fuck Flash. While I understand the medium (all too well... I've been authoring in it since it was FutureSplash and Director), it is a hog. And more to the point, one of the big reasons Apple is taking this stand against Flash (despite the memory/heat issues Flash would introduce) is the fact the future of the web is HTML5. Yes, there will always be Flash. Yes, some sites still have some investment in SWF on the browser. But it's already becoming less and less as people move towards semantic web (I am, both personally and in my day job for a mega-corp).

First generation models have flaws. Yep. I heard this mantra. Hell, I practiced it. And I think it's a great approach to buying technology. And I didn't want a first run off the line unit. At first, I didn't even want a unit. Yet, if you do the research, Apple had zero issues with this product launch. Partly because they were so well versed with the technology at this point. But this concern should be moot at this point.

"You should wait for the next version - it'll have a camera.", "You should wait for the next version, it'll have a built in pocket knife.", "You should wait for the next version - it'll be holographic with large breasted avatars!!". There's always the risk of "the next version", although looking at the upgrade enhancements to iPod and such, milestones are small, and many times - as was the case with iPod and iOS4 - older machines already have the capabilities built in that are addressed with firmware updates. I bought a new camera last week. The day AFTER I bought it, Canon announced it's successor. Did I whine and return? Nope. Could have. But the new features weren't anything I was likely to use and it cost more. Don't play the waiting game. And for the record, I think a camera on the iPad is a silly idea. can you imagine trying to take a photo with something that large of a form factor? You could do it, but it would be silly.

Finally, it's just like a big iPod touch or iPhone that doesn't make calls. It's hard to explain this to people who don't own the device, but after having both and using the iPad for a week or two, I understood that the iPad isn't a big iPod touch or iPhone - those devices are miniaturized iPads. The user experience of the iPad is great. I've had people say to me "I didn't think people actually typed on those things", while watching me type during business meetings. I actually can type faster than on a standard keyboard and it feels extremely natural. The other devices feel like crippled interfaces of the iPad.

I'm not an Apple fan-boy, although I did switch from PC to Mac last year, and I'm not trying to tell you the iPad is "magical and revolutionary". It's not. What it is, is exactly what Apple excels at - creating great products with user experiences that are everything a user expects and never knew they wanted. I love mine, and I use it all.... the.... time. I still use my Mac quite a bit, but for powerhouse things - photo editing, video editing, web site authoring, etc. More and more, I find those incidental things I used to do on my Mac being done on my iPad. It allows me to be more mobile and flexible with my life, and still do the things I would normally do.... at a desk.

It's not right for everyone, and I get that. But don't take the advice of sour-grapeists or Apple baters - go get into a store, check it out for 20-30 minutes, and you'll know whether you want it or not.
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sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
that happened to me with my first ipod touch ! ... i vowed never to do that again and i agree..

i guess this is whats happening- me holding back from other new goodies to come .... but yeah to me its the experience of enjoying the product.
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:iconandikunar:
AndiKunar Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Excellent emotional summary, good read, thanks!

Are you satisfied with the colors of your pictures when you show them on the iPad? I'm not, but it might be either my device or me being too critical (OK, I'm also very careful with my prints).
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:iconhouserphotography:
HouserPhotography Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Professional Photographer
Funny to hear you say that. I have the Twelve South BookArc stand to hold my iPad and place it next to my Mac on the desk. I find that the saturation is actually a bit better on the iPad than on my Mac. Dunno if that's just me.
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:iconandikunar:
AndiKunar Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
i did some measurements today. While contrast/saturation is very nice, mine has a definite magenta cast. Skin looks much too red with mine ...

Will be interesting to see if it's just mine or if others have also some issues. According to the web-available iPhone icc profiles it would be quite likely.
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:icondaeo:
Daeo Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional General Artist
Well said.
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:iconwarflight:
Warflight Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional Photographer
Honestly, after comparing the iPad, with the 5 year old HP/Compaq TC1100... the five year old machine (that go for about $150 to $200 on eBay and Craig's List) is the far superior machine. iPad can't even use flash, and that's about half the web out there! But that's just my opinion... I know a lot of people who swear by iPads (though, those same people would go nuts, and scramble to buy it if Steve Jobs crapped in a bag, drew a squiggle of an apple on the side, and sold it on eBay as the "iCrap", and would call anyone who didn't want to buy it "sheep" for refusing to buy anything Apple made without question... hey folks... how are those new iPhones working out for you? Made any calls yet? What? Still not working, and Apple still won't fix their own defect without charging you? Awww.... good thing you aren't sheep by buying a product that works, yeah?)

Wow... that may have been a bit more opinion than intended...
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:iconpatrickfinch:
PatrickFinch Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
The next version? You mean the Ipad with wings?
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:icontruong-san:
Truong-San Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
I own the current Ipad 3G model and I love it, it's quite nice and it's very fun.

From an economical standpoint however, you have to think of what you would use it for, I do a lot of games and quick work on it as well as read many pdfs on it and surf the web. (Sure the Iphone is nice for that, but the bigger screen is very nice). The uses got to outweigh the "flavor and style"

Since it is already the latter half of the year, I would wait a few more months, since Apple without a doubt has a new model on the way.

The model may be cheaper or it will have vastly superior performance over the previous model.

I would advocate waiting. This is due to the fact, above all else, you don't want to purchase a model, only to see in a few months at how wonderful the new one is, and I doubt that the benefit you gain using the current Ipad model in the mean time, would outweigh your disappointment when seeing the new one.
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:icontruong-san:
Truong-San Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
Also, remember that the Ipad was released in Jan and Apple loves to release on a yearly cycle or they may release one in time for Christmas.
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:iconkalleluu:
Kalleluu Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
If you really really want to get one, don't take the first model because it has all the flaws :(
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:iconbblegend:
BBLegend Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dont get an iPad get an iPhone that way its TWO things in one.. ^.^
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:iconblade-of-mako:
Blade-Of-Mako Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
HOLY CRAP, EIGHT DESTROYINCS?!?!? THE WORLD IS ENDING.

I personally love the iPad -- but I think of it like a big iTouch. My friend's parents have one, and it's fabulous, but it'll never replace your computer. It's basically a big toy.
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:iconclindhartsen:
clindhartsen Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional Interface Designer
If you have a strong purpose for having one, like an app which looks extremely useful, then it may be worth purchasing, but it could be good to wait to see what the next generation one will have, plus the eventual launch of some alternative tablets to compare it to.

All depends on your needs ... and if you have some money/credit sitting around that needs spend [min 500+tax, max is around 850+tax I think]
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:iconvonzott:
vonzott Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional Interface Designer
except for the notion that you don't EVER want to buy the first model of ANYTHING, waiting is usually not a good idea. OK, so maybe the new one comes out in a few weeks, maybe then you wait, otherwise, (except for the first model rule, above) you'll always be waiting. There's always something just a little cooler on the horizon.
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:iconpurekink:
purekink Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
I'm waiting for next version, usually avoid the first model of anything like that!
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:iconmeleck:
meleck Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
Have you looked at the ExoPC.
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:iconsideshowsito:
sideshowsito Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010  Professional Photographer
ill read on it .. havent heard anything about it
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:iconmnzproductions:
MNZproductions Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
[link] My fave review on teh iPad.
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:iconjackr:
JackR Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2010
[link] sums it up nicely, I'd say.
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